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 Post subject: Bad News...
PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:45 pm 
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Mark at Terminal Reality said that I can not release patches, due to the fact that Microsoft own's the rights to that game. The only reason that the guys that are doing 4x4 Evo Revolution is because Terminal Reality owns those rights. So I can look at the code and use it somewhat for knowledge on my own game MFR I guess. Sorry, that no patches are going to be allowed.

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 Post subject: Re: Bad News...
PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:58 pm 
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You know nothing really is stopping it from being called anything else, and then having the community provide all new content. Think about it, this game does not even have 1/8th (Maybe even less) of the content 4x4Evo has. And there are a lot of people here that can probably sort that. :)

If the code alone was the issue, I would have had to stop 4x4EvoR ages ago which is just this engine massively updated.

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 Post subject: Re: Bad News...
PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:32 pm 
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Interesting....

What about free mods? ... That just happen to include the exe of the game?

It's not unheard of. Off the top of my head, vampires bloodlines has mods of the main game to fix bugs.

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 Post subject: Re: Bad News...
PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:50 pm 
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Well, we can worry about that once we get the thing to compile.


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 Post subject: Re: Bad News...
PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:53 pm 
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A lot of games, including Microsoft games, have mods (Age of Empires for example) but they were usually hacks, not written straight from the source code.


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 Post subject: Re: Bad News...
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Fila wrote:
A lot of games, including Microsoft games, have mods (Age of Empires for example) but they were usually hacks, not written straight from the source code.

Yes it's truly amazing that we managed to decompile the game right? *wink*

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 Post subject: Re: Bad News...
PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2016 7:15 pm 
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Jpez1432 wrote:
Mark at Terminal Reality said that I can not release patches, due to the fact that Microsoft own's the rights to that game.


Is there any way we can obtain permission from Microsoft to release patches?

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 Post subject: Re: Bad News...
PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2016 10:20 pm 
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4x4EvolutionFan wrote:
Jpez1432 wrote:
Mark at Terminal Reality said that I can not release patches, due to the fact that Microsoft own's the rights to that game.


Is there any way we can obtain permission from Microsoft to release patches?


That's a hell of a hurdle. How do you figure out who to contact?

Microsoft won't even be aware of the game anymore.

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 Post subject: Re: Bad News...
PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 5:52 pm 
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since when does Microsoft still own any rights to this game?


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 Post subject: Re: Bad News...
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 3:12 am 
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Since forever. TRI has the rights to the actual code but Microsoft has rights to the final completed product.


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 Post subject: Re: Bad News...
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 9:59 am 
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Simple, just release it as Oversized Vehicle Insanity 3. :P


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 Post subject: Re: Bad News...
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I am somewhat confused as to why we're having this discussion when we have some... uhm... beta patches released...


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 Post subject: Re: Bad News...
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Fila wrote:
I am somewhat confused as to why we're having this discussion when we have some... uhm... beta patches released...

Shhhhh, they are mods, not patches. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Bad News...
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im confused since the game has been abandonware since....forever. How else could it be user modified if a company still had rights to it? I mean the company didnt create traxx/and etc. so this makes no sense to me


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 Post subject: Re: Bad News...
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:57 pm 
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im confused since the game has been abandonware since....forever. How else could it be user modified if a company still had rights to it? I mean the company didnt create traxx/and etc. so this makes no sense to me

Abaondonware isn't a legal thing.
If Microsoft so felt like swinging its knarly *beep* and beating our heads with it, it could and there's nothing we could do to stop it.

Our only hope is that we stay under the radar. Which we were doing pretty well of until some news website shows the mtm2 web page on microsoft.com. Reminding microsoft that this game exists.

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