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I use cockpit because chase far feels like I'm driving an R/C car which makes me feel very detached from the game. But the points you make are well taken.

I agree with Jumper: cockpit view makes me seasick too. Another important drawback of cockpit view is that it is very hard to know what the truck is doing when airborne and thus chosing the right steering angle for the landing.
I use chase near although I admit that for racing tactics chase far is often superior. But chase near looks a lot better IMHO and is less "arcadish". I may add than in all other racing games I play(ed) I always use bonnet or cockpit view.
Back to MTM2, in tracks with steep climbs and dips, chase near needs adjustment of the vertical view angle. I use programmed wheel buttons for this purpose because the coolie-hat often has the undesirable side effect of changing the lateral angle too (force feedback) .
In rumbles I of course use chase far.

I drive with Cockpit view, and can't even control the truck on any other view.

It's more of a feel thing for me. I can judge distances much better in the cab. I can tell how the truck is going to land, by the height of the nose, in reference to the sky.

I'm an avid off roader in reality, so that's the view I get from my own truck's cab. When I play MTM2, that's the view I expect to see. I'm a very good driver in my real truck, and I can usually avoid all bad things. But unlike reality, MTM2 doesn't have the same effect that the gas pedal does to the truck in mid air. I wish it did.

But either way, I have tried to drive in other views, and my lap times skyrocket. I just don't get the same effect, that I get when I'm in the cab. I guess if you know the truck that well, and know where the scrape points are, you can do very well in Cockpit view. I always know where I'm at, and I seem to get a better "Seat of the Pants" feel when in Cockpit view.

Everyone is different. That's just the way I like it. I think alot of it has to do with the view you first chose when you first drove this game. I chose Cockpit, and have just stuck with it.

Most like to see the truck's physical apearance when driving, I can totally understand that. After all, the picture on the screen is much prettier, when in a Chase view. You can see the whole truck, and all the scenery.

You make an interesting point Jumper.

The main reason I use cab view is because I oversteer terribly when I try to use chase far. I also get a more realistic feeling when using cab view. The only time I use chase far is when I'm driving around a track during beta testing.

In the end, it all depends on what feels for comfortable to each driver. I'm certainly not gonna say cab view is better, I'm just more comfortable with it, like Jumper and others are more comfortable with chase far.

personnally, in mtm2 i use chase far or chase near. most other games i use cockpit view, even evo1&2. the reason i use the chases in mtm2 is b/c of the slide that mtm2 has. in cockpit view when it slides im gone. lol.
when using chase views i cans see the slide and counter-act it, thus conrtolling the truck better.

Some interesting comments in there. How about how do you manage your races when driving in cab? I know Scat use the map but how about others, Do ya only trust the map?

From Chase far i can easily read others intention from how they position behind me. I can see their wheels turn and truck angles so you can tell he is going to cut inside. From there you can drive and react more realisticly in terms or maneuvers. So i use the map to make stratigic decision and figure who's who and how far they are but i look at the their truck when they're close to me.


I do respect each of ya's way but i'm just trying to figure how do you read other players intention near you? Wile in cab, since the map dont really show much info about the other trucks, How do you read the info to avoid crashing or cutting others?

Interesting stuff here, and quite a few well-made points from all. I'm a chase far guy, too, and the first time you play this game after installation, you start in cab, which is the default setting. It didn't take me long to figure out that that particular view for this game wasn't going to do it for me. Given the ups/downs and general roughness of the terrain on most tracks, cab view was...well, nauseating lol. Who knows tho - maybe if I had hung in there, popped a few motion sicness pills, it might have worked out.

At any rate, like Jumper, I tend to believe the in-cab view comes with some inherent limitations. I have to stress that I'm not stating this as fact, since I have no first-hand experience of racing on a pro level using the in-cab view. I have "toyed" with it offline, however, so I do have a feel for what it's like. Chase far allows me to use positioning tactics to either avoid a crash or make a pass. It's really difficult to describle how subtle the posturing techniques are, but where it concerns avoiding a crash or takeout by another racer, it's clearly has an advantage over the in-cab view. My primary goal is to stay in the race, especially from the start. So many people make the mistake of trying to win the race from the very beginning, which inevitably leads to premature pile-ups lol.

What I'm curious about is whether some of the great racers of days gone by used the in-cab view. Knowing what I know about MTM 2 racing, I just don't see how anyone can turn HoF type laps using in-cab...track for track, I mean...particularly on tracks requiring a lot of finesse. The fastest people I know (present day) all use chase far. It would be interesting to find out what view guys like GTX_Slotcar, GTX_Fly, RIP_Buzzz, GTX_Bug, AXE_Feak and many others used.

hehehe Dont know when that was but this game in becoming a science now lol. personnally i dont have time to get of my chair and even shut the tv so my attention is on the track. My next step is to tie my son in his room so it's real quiet roflmao.

Perhaps we'll even get into spycological aspect someday lmao

I used to race/rumble in cockpit but i'm done with that because there was a strange feeling about it. I'm a driving simulation lover and driving from inside the cockpit gave me a strange feeling. Not arcade but neither the simulation i was looking for. It simply felt weird and not right so i changed to chase far and i found out that the feeling of the car is much better then the one from the cockpit.

I was simply able to "feel" (i certainly can do that in video game) the truck much much better.

I get that tunnel vision feeling in cockpit.

I use chase far view only.

I love the full-screen cockpit view (akas, Hood, Bonnet, Bug on Winshield, hood ornament). Tried the other views and well I have a harder time controlling the truck.

As for 'getting into' the game I too lean in my seat while taking a turn.

Yea I definitely prefer using chasefar view. I get a much better feel for the tracks this way (lining up for turns, landing jumps, and getting better clarity of what lies ahead in terms of obstacles and/or other racers).
I've tried cockpit view offline a fair amount. Found it much harder to anticipate turns and complete them as smoothly...and had a hard time calculating slides correctly. However I'm sure if I practiced it a bit more I could do a little better. One thing I find that is great about cockpit view is that you get to see every bump on the road (as someone mentioned earlier) and dont get too many surprises with the terrain.
I guess it really boils down to which view you started out with in this game. Once you are locked on to a certain view and way of driving its very hard to change.
I do think that you can be successful with either view... surprisingly enough RIP_Dirtyracer always uses cockpit view and has had a lot of success with it so I guess there is hope for either style of driving, its all about finding your niche.

I always use the cockpit view because that gives me a good excuse when I run a straggler into a three as soon as he caught up with me.

In cockpit vieuw you kinda wear blinkers You can't see a thing on the left, right or behind you. But on the other hand, it gives you more the arcade feeling - it makes you feel to go much faster (which makes it some harder as well, of course).

But ok, it all was already said

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Many good points made above.

I think I'd prefer chase middle if it existed, but chase far (and slightly up) has been my favorite all these years. I have used the in-cab view a lot too, some tracks almost demand it, but I use it mainly for testing purposes or for getting a different perspective on a track. I prefer a chase view in most (but not all) racing games -- I like to see my vehicle, and in mtm I insist on seeing where my tires touch the terrain. I also like the overall track perspective that a chase view allows.

When I first started making tracks all I used was chase far, as a result of that my early work isn't friendly to in-cab drivers (all they can see is blue sky a lot of the time). However, every track I've ever released has been designed with both views in mind.

Chase far and in-cab people see such different worlds. What bothers me is that cockpit only drivers, who refuse to step outside of their cab for any reason, completely miss the 'spectacle' of some of the classic, spectacular big air jumps (classic tracks by Spider and Yeastman come to mind). Instead of seeing whole towns below, with loads of scenery and such, they see open sky, for eons, until they land. Being trapped in the cab can lead to missing a designers vision. Of course, I've always viewed tracks as an art form and have always appreciated them as such.

I think track designers naturally tend to optimise their tracks for one view or another, a chase far person seems more likely to carve rough terrain or include big air jumps. All too often in-cab designers are too short-sighted, they make too-low tunnels (tunnel-vision) and crowded scenery that annoys chase far drivers. In my opinion a track maker or a reviewer needs to be familiar with both views, or their results will only be half baked.

I usually just go to the kitchen and put the kettle on, or hop on down to the corner store. By the time I return, the truck has usually landed.

Cockpit view. Just feels right. lol