The road to recovery.......

SLO_COPE · Post by **SLO_COPE** » Wed Jul 24, 2002 9:30 pm

I won't give my opinion of C-98...other than everybody and their brother can run :41s on it...oh, and that it takes very little effort to hit :41s on that track. I wanna know what your clockin' on Voodoo. Hehehe

As for Pearl...did you make any changes to the course? Seemed to be the same...however, I can't verify that since I overwrote the previous version. I did notice you took out the grass. Well, my assessment pretty much stands as before; love the layout, so what's next?

Psyco · Post by **Psyco** » Thu Jul 25, 2002 12:49 am

Yea... I smoothed out the new section alot... changed some jumps a little.. changed the big bridge to where you just completely clear it.........

As for whats next I'm trying to get the track perfect before I start on everything else... and if Phin ever looks at this I think he'll be a little happier... just a little...

Psyco · Post by **Psyco** » Thu Jul 25, 2002 1:56 am

And on the c98.... I havent touched mtm2 for 6 months.... even then I didnt race much... the last time I really raced the MTMA was still hildin team tourneys.... So I'm happy to get back to THE mtm benchmark

Post by **Phineus** » Thu Jul 25, 2002 2:17 am

>>if Phin ever looks at this

I'm right here.

I was trying to avoid another case of why bother syndrome.

I thought the first version was fine but needed some touching up. This version could almost stand as two one minute tracks. The transition from one course to the other is very clearly marked. But it also works as a single longer track too (obviously since that's the way you made it). Yes, the surrounding area is much improved, tho it could still benefit from additional attention. So, um, what are you looking for on it now? Courses for comp trucks and the map? Check points maybe?

SLO_COPE · Post by **SLO_COPE** » Thu Jul 25, 2002 9:36 am

Here are a feww observations to consider, Psycho. Be out of town for a few days, so I'll check up on this thread when I get back.

Later
http://members.cox.net/slocope/pcbeta.htm

Psyco · Post by **Psyco** » Fri Jul 26, 2002 6:26 am

>>>I was trying to avoid another case of why bother syndrome.

Dont worry bout that... lol... I wont be working hours like that until next summer.... starting football practice now...

>>>I thought the first version was fine but needed some touching up. This version could almost stand as two one minute tracks.

Thats only because you ran the first one... I dont think anyone else will really see it that way..

>>>Courses for comp trucks and the map? Check points maybe?

Both were done at the time of your post.... Just havent uped it yet...
Pic of map... http://psyco.karf.net/ppcqr.jpg

>>>where the arrow points

I havent figured out what happened there yet.. Terrain looks smooth in traxx.. so does texture.... Guess I'll redo that jump to fix it...

>>>invisible bridges

Tell me that in a race where you wreck comin upto it... and I had probs with comp trucks there.... So I fixed it...

>>>somewhat of a precarious spot to negotiate

Exacaly.... lol... Although I have already smoothed it out a bit in the next version..... but like I told phin.. I havent had time to up it yet...

Thanks Guys

Will have new test up before I goto bed tonight.. I think...

Psyco · Post by **Psyco** » Fri Jul 26, 2002 8:44 am

http://psyco.karf.net/pearlcounty.zip

1.2 mb :/ I'm workin on a place to store the track zips Phin...

Post by **Phineus** » Sat Jul 27, 2002 12:47 pm

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SLO_COPE · Post by **SLO_COPE** » Sun Jul 28, 2002 2:40 pm

Nice changes, Psyco - I like it! Yeah, I think that spot you smoothed out on the approach to the bridge works much better. Yes, I understand it wasn't meant to be cake, but again, the point was there was sooooo much road there, but only a narrow portion of it was usable to properly negotiate that section of the track.

I haven't gone thru it with a critical eye yet (just got back in town), but I will tonight. I'll let ya know what I find...if anything. Lookin good so far, and I love the "Pearl" logo at the very begining. Nice touch.

Psyco · Post by **Psyco** » Mon Jul 29, 2002 12:17 pm

I replied before I went to work, but Ie crashed and I didnt feel like redoin all of it.... so heres the short version....

Pic 1 - The sideways textrues look even worse if i try to remove the crossroads.....

Pic 2 - Start farther left.... go farther right... and learn to drive.... lol... Actually I dont know wat to do there....

Pic 3 - Hey!! Who stole the groundboxes? anywho... Binedit wont open the strlite.bin so I couldnt fix it... Believe it or not I actually tried... briefly.... But hey.... If you dont pull magic tricks It serves its purpose.... and looks nice to boot

Fila · Post by **Fila** » Mon Jul 29, 2002 7:19 pm

Hehe, i cannot argue with Psyco there. That's clever made

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SLO_COPE · Post by **SLO_COPE** » Tue Jul 30, 2002 1:31 am

I don't have objections to the angle you used in pic 2; pretty common on lots of tracks, but not nearly as severe as some that I've seen. Hehehe I know it's a pet peeve of Phins (blind jumps/turns), but I look at is part of knowing the track...and catching those that do know about it off guard...sleeping at the wheel.

As for pic 1...yeah, it's too bad you don't have the expertise to effect repairs in the spots Phin pointed out. I recall seeing them for the first time and thinking that although it looked odd, I didn't find it visually offensive. However, I think the track would look much better without em.

That's all for me for now.

Fila · Post by **Fila** » Tue Jul 30, 2002 2:49 am

Yeah it doesn't look that pretty in pic1

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Fools, the blood only feeds the bodies we live in. To create a vampire,
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Psyco · Post by **Psyco** » Tue Jul 30, 2002 3:01 am

>>yeah, it's too bad you don't have the expertise

Why'd you hafta go and say somthin like that.... Now I'm gonna hafta setcha strait... well.... after football practice....

SLO_COPE · Post by **SLO_COPE** » Fri Aug 02, 2002 4:49 pm

By all means, my good man! Actually, I didn't come to that conclusion on my own; you basically said it yourself with "Pic 1 - The sideways textrues look even worse if i try to remove the crossroads.....". Hehe still, I'd gladly eat those words.

Looking forward to the next version

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Wint · Post by **Wint** » Sat Aug 03, 2002 8:41 am

Niiiice work Psyco, very nice and natural. You have become a true master of terrain. ;-) It's cool that you decided to take the extra time and effort with this track, as it would be a shame to just spit out something less than excellent at this point.

Remember, you can satistfy sparse racers by making use of complex settings on loads of scenery, and as for extra scenery, head to http://malibu350.com and check out the landscaping section under track scraps. ;-)

Opinion: I think the groundbox bridge (it's a jump, actually ;-) along course segment twenty-one is a bit ugly, and the raised sides block what would otherwise be a fairly impressive view, due to the elevation. I think it would look better if those GB walls were flattened. The terrain walls that follow that are cool though.

If you'll be applying type/depth to the textures, I hope you make those mud pits deep mud, for the kids who like to get squirrely.

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Psyco · Post by **Psyco** » Sat Dec 14, 2002 3:37 am

I havent forgotten about this yet.. I'm still debating what to do with it... as for my next project....

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SLO_COPE · Post by **SLO_COPE** » Sat Dec 14, 2002 7:45 am

Well, I like that you're still in there pitching, but as for the "debating on what to do" where it concerns the last track, heck man just keep going. I think we all but had the texture stuff worked out save a few minor blemishes. Press on, bud.

As for "Crosswinds 2003", oh yeah! Loved the first two. The only thing I can say is perhaps you'll give some consideration to the idea of this latest version following the same pattern as its predessors; short and to the point. Maybe 1:30 per lap...with 1:45 being the max. Just my two cents, bud.

Looking forward to seeing the next version of...of...hey, what was the name of that track anyway lol.

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Post by **Phineus** » Sat Dec 14, 2002 8:05 am

Agreed. No getting hung up. Just kick it out and move on. And the preview pic looks great. Lookin' forward to it.

Psyco · Post by **Psyco** » Sun Dec 15, 2002 2:48 am

Well..... I've almost got the thing to where I can run a lap... lol.... when I get my wheel working it should be about 1:40 a lap (I hope...)

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